Delta Green - Iconoclasts 24

[00:00:00] Warning, this game's setting revolves around an active Middle East combat zone and contains

[00:00:05] references to extreme violence, graphic content and other mature themes.

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[00:00:12] The Rainforest Brothel presents...

[00:00:15] Want some whiskey in your water?

[00:00:18] Sugar in your tea?

[00:00:20] With all these crazy questions they're asking me?

[00:00:24] The craziest body that could ever be? kazim access to England. Yep. We should also talk to Gwen about going into Mosul. Mosul. Yep. Um, discussing with the Peshmerga about, uh, locations to potentially set up safe houses within. Yes. Um, as well as what, what about balancing the idea of going in the river off the Peshmerga? That's a fantastic idea. Cause I'm sure they could be like, are you fucking

[00:01:43] insane? There's like 10 checkpoints and yeah. Or they because if you look, it would potentially be. But there's a road that runs. Yes, there's a road from Syria. Oh, there's a road from Syria that runs north and then comes back down, which is one of the main roads towards towards the closest connector on the Turkish border.

[00:03:01] OK, which Raqqa are we talking?

[00:03:03] Talking about Raqqa in Syria.

[00:03:05] I would Google the province.

[00:03:07] Look, you know, I would I would Wikipedia. could go right through the checkpoint. You should do one of those super cool airdrops like Dumbo drop. We just dropped the whole ISIL truck that you're in on the north side. It's an option. Operation Mosul drop. Yeah. Push out a shitty Dumbo Toyota truck. It's just an elephant named Mosul that we're dropping.

[00:04:24] It's funny as they made a halo drop with an elephant in that movie. It's not a halo drop.

[00:04:25] Well, I just think it's really, you said you wanted to look into Irene. We want to look into Irene, but we also, something else, uh, go ahead.

[00:05:44] I was going to say details of the, if there's any known locations of risk, the

[00:05:47] initial resom and survivors of resoms. going to have weapons, are you going to have technology, are you going to have, you know what I mean? You may want to have that shopping list or whatever that that knowledge ahead of time figure just put camping supplies in quotes. Yeah. Yeah. Editor make a note of that. So next episode when one of them says, why the fuck did new moon. April 7th. Gruesome assault. Iraqi crew skinned alive. Twelve crew alive in tanks. You said you wanted to get info from Gwen. That bit would have come from Irene. Correct Irene. Oh, the tank crew. Yes.

[00:08:21] Which I believe is the only thing that you've heard I'm just concerned about the distance, but I do know that it is far out from It's not in the heart of Mosul like the majority of the others correct Wasn't it like that? It might be way off. Is it near a river? Yes. Yeah, it said it was in a checkpoint at a river crossing

[00:09:40] It's probably 70 kilometers south. Yeah, a hundred maybe a bit much, but it's like it's it's down there

[00:10:41] to do the exact same joke. So proud of you.

[00:10:42] This is kind of what I thought would be really useful

[00:10:44] for you guys is to kind of talk through the clues,

[00:10:46] talk through the timeline,

[00:10:48] get an understanding of what you want to do.

[00:10:50] So then that way, when we actually like go to play,

[00:10:54] we have some stuff.

[00:10:56] Add fencing artifacts for money.

[00:10:58] Got it.

[00:10:59] And if you didn't take a note about the Mosul battalions,

[00:11:02] Jeff, I do think that that was an interesting idea

[00:11:04] that you may want to think about.

[00:11:06] Yeah, especially because they're Pat getting those written down a little more clearly. If you're going to tell me what they were so I can share them with you. You don't have them written down? I have a lot written down, but I'm going to make it at least a little difficult for

[00:12:23] you.

[00:12:24] The myth slopes of Artemi? For fuck's sake, Sagassu is- Sagassu is Akkadian. So, I don't know when Akkadian was a spoken language, but not recently. Because if it was later Romanized, that means it's- It's pre-Roman Empire. Pre-turn of the millennia. And that should say previous millennia. It was the last one. Pre-turn of probably- Ancient Mesopotamian.

[00:13:41] Probably pre-turn of two millennia.

[00:13:44] Yeah.

[00:13:44] Third millennia BC.

[00:13:45] Six, so eight thousand years ago.

[00:13:47] Right.

[00:13:48] Yeah.

[00:13:48] Five. No, eighth century. That makes much more sense. I'm like, I'm real bad at math. You just launched this back another 5000 years into the past. I'm like, we're a bunch of liberal arts students. But yeah, here, uh, era for Acadian is 2500 to 500 BC. Okay. We're right. Academic or liturgical use until 80 100. That makes sense. Okay, let alone the era that came before that era. Like it's fucking stupid. How long Egyptian royalty was a thing? Like I'm pretty sure you can measure their empire on the realm of millennia.

[00:16:23] Today, did they do the stupid inbreeding thing like the.

[00:16:25] No, yeah, yeah. Europeans keep it in the family.

[00:17:22] a bunch of your gods and some of the Greek gods and kind of throw them all together.

[00:17:23] And that makes my right divine in terms of rule.

[00:17:26] Go me.

[00:17:27] Uh, did that give you the bit of history that you wanted to know, Jeff?

[00:17:33] Uh, I also have the cult of Shagash vanished.

[00:17:39] Correct. A rogue priest contained.

[00:17:42] I'll read this one too if you want me to.

[00:17:43] Yeah, that's enough for me to know which one you read,

[00:17:45] which is consistent with my notes. family's quarries were. I believe they're in southern Iraq. Why do you ask what's going through your brain or not? It was buried in the desert. How was it found? Yeah, who dug it up. Who knew what it was when it was dug up? Yeah, you do have piles and piles of resounds journals too. It's just guess. I don't know how old he is. And if he had kids, I am sorry for them. Because I would. I don't know. I don't know that I've ever heard. I'm sure. I know he's. I'm pretty sure he's married. So I think the odds are that he's probably has kids. But I would say because you got to remember he worked with Detweiler on the original DG, which came out in the mid to

[00:20:23] late 90s.

[00:20:24] I believe.

[00:20:25] Scott Glancy.

[00:20:26] Adam Scott Glancy.

[00:20:27] Adam. signaled in Delta Green. Very interesting. Because both are references to the fuck is it? There's an old British. The prisoner. I can never remember where it is. I'm personally pretty steeped in kind of like parapolitics and alternate views of history and deep politics. It's just really interesting. It's fun. And yeah, the shit strikes

[00:21:41] me as like someone who has

[00:21:43] a tinfoil hat that's like three times

[00:21:45] as thick as mine.

[00:21:47] They're insane and they know a lot don't see anything horrific about what you've described at all. Not even a little bit. I've actually talked to Jeff quite recently about how the future games I want to play. I want to absolutely break the fourth wall on more than one occasion and make it an aspect of the game. Because I think that'd be great. Should we be scared? I think we should be scared. I'm scared.

[00:23:02] So you got your to do list. You've got some notes we did? I can't remember. Did Cassim ever get it? I know he made shitty roles, but did he get anything from his time in Greece? I didn't, I didn't actually make shitty roles. I actually made some good roles. I'm magic now. No, Cassim, Cassim has learned spells. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, actually, I think the roles have gone pretty well, actually. What is Cassim spells that he does? What does

[00:24:22] he know? Uh, I think we're in the middle of investigating that. Nacotic manuscripts, I would say, are arguably more important than the Necronomicon. You have in your hands a core text of magic and understanding about the world. Like you have a key text. So there's a lot that could be unpacked there.

[00:25:40] How much of it is Whispers of the Spine 1

[00:25:42] versus how much of it is in-game relevant remains to be seen,

[00:25:46] but you can find stuff in the Nacotic manuscripts for sure. There's Greek and yeah, so you failed the Greek. Yeah, this Greek is checked on there and actually I have a I have a pretty low. That's why I've been kind of getting lucky because I have a pretty low Greek score. It's like 30, 40. But that's when as you were trying to like get some information from this seminal Cthulhu mythos text and as you are, you're getting some stuff and you're learning magic

[00:27:03] like we had brought up, as had said, just fuck it. We'll just go, you know, whatever. We'll go and not respect that. But Jeff's old DG contact was like, don't be cowboys.

[00:28:22] He was like, hey, do you realize that that's the other side you could do. We were definitely waiting on Gwen. We just hadn't thought about the fact that, oh, shit, we're already somewhere else where they've got one of these texts stored. Yeah, I would say the Necronomicon, the Cotic Manuscripts, Book of I-Bond.

[00:29:40] We told you put every fucking one of those days away.

[00:29:42] We got to roll some dice before we leave.

[00:29:44] We cannot leave.

[00:29:45] Here we go.

[00:29:46] What did we get?

[00:29:47] Pick it up.

[00:29:48] It was a 90. It's better decisions to the point where you're like, did they intentionally not make those decisions to do this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where the parapolitical horrors just re- I was just talking to him about like, you could write a fucking DG scenario specifically about like what's going on right now. Yeah. They rode like what basically like fans and then-

[00:31:02] Yeah, they paraglided in.

[00:31:03] They paraglided in.

[00:31:04] That was that one specific area.

[00:31:06] I mean, they took down the guy with the fish. No, it's a different guy. Okay. Oh, I need to get back to the guy with the fish. The guy with the fish is getting

[00:32:21] progressively crazier. Oh, really? That was going to watch it again because that's one of his better ones. But yeah, no, he was like, he's like, he's like, yeah. And guess what? He's like, because in fucking what?

[00:33:40] You know, he's like, he's like, you just keep taking it back.

[00:33:43] He's like, yeah, you are the fucking muja dean.

[00:33:45] And you're like, oh, yeah.

[00:33:46] Hey, you can't be in the muja dean.

[00:34:43] start going down the rabbit hole and then you end up at some pretty weird fucking places. End up at Hollow Earth and lizard people.

[00:34:45] Yeah.

[00:34:46] If you've never listened to anything David Ike has ever said, David Ike is also really

[00:34:50] fun to talk to.

[00:34:51] Yeah.

[00:34:52] Except that guy, like my understanding is he went from zero to 60.

[00:34:54] He was, he was an English footballer and very popular.

[00:34:57] And then the motherfucker just like went off the deep end on a daytime talk show and he's

[00:35:01] like, Oh yeah, no, the Royal family are all lizard people.

[00:35:03] He's just like, Oh yeah.

[00:35:05] Yeah.

[00:35:06] Go. I was going to note because we just started releasing episodes. We are getting some decent push. I've had more comments about this show than I have had in several shows. So, OK, somebody was like, Oh, on on X, since Twitter is not a thing anymore. Someone on X. I love how I've been reading a lot of CNN articles.

[00:36:20] Twitter until the day I die, just like it's going to be showbiz.

[00:36:24] Oh, sorry. It's no.