Delta Green - Iconoclasts 29

[00:00:00] Warning, this game's setting revolves around an active Middle East combat zone and contains references to extreme violence, graphic content and other mature themes.

[00:01:00] I'm not going to win or let me catch my prey.

[00:01:04] I'm going to be a lot to come.

[00:01:07] I'm going to be a lot to come.

[00:01:12] Need different things we think of. Cody is going to find some way to fuck us.

[00:01:15] So we need to be able to take surveillance equipment.

[00:01:18] Is there a cover story that would lead identities that, right?

[00:01:22] Is there a cover story that would really let us get away with having high-tech surveillance equipment or one of those cover story options?

[00:01:29] I would make the most sense to be like, yeah, I have this for you know.

[00:01:33] Welcome. We were recording.

[00:01:35] Well, you were talking about the podcast.

[00:01:37] So I figured rather than talking about the eclipse or car weather's may he rip who will protect us from the predators now?

[00:01:43] Make a soup with that wasn't him the first time anyway.

[00:01:46] RIP Chubs, other car weather movies here.

[00:01:50] I think I'm most the fan of car weather in arrested development.

[00:01:54] That might be one of my favorite roles for him.

[00:01:56] That's I just made the reference you make a soup with that.

[00:01:58] It's amazing.

[00:01:59] Oh, is that his line?

[00:02:01] Is that his line?

[00:02:02] I think so.

[00:02:03] I got to keep the method one acting.

[00:02:06] I don't know. I like happy Gilmore.

[00:02:08] I like him in the Mandalorian too.

[00:02:10] Oh, yeah.

[00:02:12] Yeah, I forgot about the Mandalorian.

[00:02:14] He's great. He was great.

[00:02:16] I did like him in the Mandalorian.

[00:02:18] He's kind of a shit heel.

[00:02:20] He's like a greaseier landowner.

[00:02:22] Yeah.

[00:02:23] Well, that was my thought.

[00:02:24] Is he sort of replacing landowner there?

[00:02:27] It's just so good because I've talked about it before but the Mandalorian is a western and I like westerns.

[00:02:32] And it's a space western as I've often said every single episode in that first season is a classic western trope.

[00:02:38] And then I'll try to hide it.

[00:02:39] I think so.

[00:02:40] I think so.

[00:02:41] I was even in there.

[00:02:42] You know what?

[00:02:43] Honestly, I didn't like the first season that much and you just saying that makes me like it more.

[00:02:49] Something just clicks for me there.

[00:02:51] Yeah.

[00:02:52] Like it's it's it's a it's a it's a bounty hunter episode you've got a bounty hunter episode right?

[00:02:57] He there's a train robbery.

[00:02:59] Yeah, there's literally a train robber.

[00:03:01] There's a prison break.

[00:03:03] Mm hmm.

[00:03:04] And then somebody was I remember somebody weren't going blah blah blah what about the I think it's a season finale or whatever.

[00:03:09] I was like he ropes a fucking Bronco and Yanks a guy off of it like what more cowboy than that?

[00:03:17] Yeah.

[00:03:18] He shoots his shit into a goddamn tie fighter and Yanks the guy out of it like that's a cowboy fucking move.

[00:03:24] Yeah, the guy the cowboy being dragged behind the horse is a trope.

[00:03:28] It's no different than the Mandalorian shooting his fucking whatever in you know grappling hook onto a tie fighter.

[00:03:34] Same thing so good such a good show.

[00:03:36] You're looking to watch the new episodes.

[00:03:37] Well, they're not new episodes.

[00:03:38] They're new to me because I don't watch anything on time.

[00:03:40] I've noticed a disturbing habit where I stop watching shows like right before I'm done with them and it is the worst.

[00:03:46] Oh, by the way, it's being in shows.

[00:03:48] I wasn't familiar with the manga before but if you haven't watched delicious and dungeons yet on Netflix.

[00:03:52] I can't decide if I love it or hate it.

[00:03:54] Oh my god.

[00:03:55] Give me the elevator pitch.

[00:03:57] I haven't heard of it.

[00:03:58] Um top chef meets dungeon crawl.

[00:04:00] Yeah, what?

[00:04:01] How does that work?

[00:04:02] It's like so we're going to the dungeon, but now we're gonna cut up a monster and eat it and like it's like a sustained.

[00:04:08] Here's how you saute a fucking head crap.

[00:04:11] Like it's like the fuck is this?

[00:04:13] Like broke adventurers decide they're never gonna buy daily rations again.

[00:04:17] How would we survive?

[00:04:18] Oh,

[00:04:19] and then you meet a dwarf that knows exactly how to cook excellent monster cuisine.

[00:04:23] Amazing.

[00:04:24] But it's like I expect in the manga there are actual recipes that like that's how detailed that this guy.

[00:04:30] Like I've watched four of the episodes now.

[00:04:32] I can't I literally ended the last episode going I'll watch the next one but I can't decide if I love it or hate it.

[00:04:37] I think I hate it, but I'm gonna watch some more because I'm not sure.

[00:04:41] But you know when I played Nushka and Dave's campaign, I really wanted to give her the cook feet.

[00:04:47] That would have been very cool.

[00:04:49] No, knowing how to break down and cook everything she killed.

[00:04:53] They do they do what I want to say they do living armor in one episode was very funny.

[00:05:01] Yeah, they do the rogue disarms a trap room and the guy points out that the oil is probably olive oil because it's the most like.

[00:05:10] So they do like a fucking what do you call it?

[00:05:13] They do like a tempura with the fucking cookling oil from the trap because he has the rogue set the trap off because they know where it is.

[00:05:20] They can fucking like fried dumplings or something in the tempura.

[00:05:24] Amazing.

[00:05:25] The dwarfs like you need to get the right heat on that.

[00:05:28] He's like, that's not how you use a trap.

[00:05:31] It has such good moments but I it's my problem with enemy.

[00:05:35] He ate it so much but it has some really good moments.

[00:05:37] So yeah, no delicious and dungeon is probably worth checking out maybe I don't know.

[00:05:42] I don't know. I got rid of Netflix.

[00:05:44] It's probably on the internet you find it on YouTube but it is a crunchy roll probably.

[00:05:49] Oh for sure.

[00:05:50] I can imagine.

[00:05:51] Yeah, but that's another service I have to get.

[00:05:53] Yeah, it's free if you are okay with ads.

[00:05:55] At least it used to be.

[00:05:57] I still pay for it.

[00:05:58] I watch lots of anime.

[00:06:00] She's not an anime guy.

[00:06:01] Very few.

[00:06:02] I like vampire anime quite a bit but otherwise not a lot.

[00:06:05] Berserk. Berserk is good.

[00:06:06] I bet I could get Jeff into chainsaw man.

[00:06:08] I doubt it.

[00:06:09] It's pretty fucking you know, I like animated shows.

[00:06:12] I don't like anime.

[00:06:14] Same.

[00:06:15] I think it's something where you have to be exposed to it when you're younger

[00:06:19] to get your brain more used to the conventions.

[00:06:21] You don't think so?

[00:06:22] Yeah, man, man.

[00:06:23] That's pretty young.

[00:06:24] I don't know.

[00:06:25] I don't know.

[00:06:26] When I was a Spencer, Spencer going for the old man feet.

[00:06:29] Yeah.

[00:06:30] When I was in high school, I was exposed to vampire hounder D and I enjoyed that.

[00:06:35] Vampire Hounder D is excellent as his vampire hundred blood lust.

[00:06:37] Yeah, I don't.

[00:06:38] I never saw the other my but my entire anime was in Washington so yeah.

[00:06:42] But after that, I tried going into other stuff

[00:06:45] and I kind of got into full metal alchemist for a little bit

[00:06:48] but that's as far as I ever got.

[00:06:50] And I just it's a whole different like I mean, it's a whole different culture.

[00:06:54] It's a cultural.

[00:06:55] It's a cultural thing.

[00:06:56] And there are certain like cultural things that are just sort of accepted.

[00:06:59] Although I do think to Spencer's credit, I do think things like Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z

[00:07:03] definitely put an anime imprint on some people.

[00:07:07] Like that being on Tsunami, I think for like people in my generation definitely helped.

[00:07:11] Yeah.

[00:07:12] You get used to the just the conventions.

[00:07:15] It is a different story telling method.

[00:07:17] But like that's the frustrating thing to me is the cooking thing is interesting.

[00:07:20] But it almost dominates the episode because that's the point.

[00:07:24] But it's like you're not really moving the story.

[00:07:26] You're like learning to cook but it's bullshit cooking because none of it is real.

[00:07:30] Which is part of the joke right?

[00:07:32] But at the same time it's like, oh we're really going to do this for how many fucking episodes?

[00:07:35] I don't know those cooking techniques are pretty real.

[00:07:38] They are but it feels like how many times are you going to cook living armor or fucking you know

[00:07:43] I don't know, dire bats or whatever the shit they were cooking.

[00:07:46] It's a clever idea but it's like it's one of those things that like for a character.

[00:07:49] Beautiful.

[00:07:50] You want a beautiful role playing character?

[00:07:51] Like to sit down and watch like thinking about one piece right?

[00:07:54] Like it's a pirate thing but it's a pirate thing has been going on for like nine million episodes.

[00:07:59] Yeah but Luffy is actually just a terrorist.

[00:08:01] I mean he is but like watching that and I've been enjoying it.

[00:08:04] But then it gets to the anime conventions and I'm just like.

[00:08:07] Yeah, same reaction.

[00:08:09] If you like vampire hundred I also really enjoy Helsing.

[00:08:11] Logan has talked about that now.

[00:08:13] I just vampire Delta green basically.

[00:08:16] Yeah yeah like it's the anime style.

[00:08:19] I have a really hard time getting into it.

[00:08:23] You can borrow some of the manga.

[00:08:25] I think the manga is actually much much better.

[00:08:27] Helsing was holy shit.

[00:08:29] It's the third volume that I read just turned into absolute bullshit violence.

[00:08:33] Berserk I think actually is pretty good from the two volumes I've read so far but it is very much dark souls like

[00:08:41] Makab, D&D style stuff.

[00:08:44] Yeah a lot of it I'm not really into it.

[00:08:47] I know I'm fighting against the wind against these two guys because I know they both enjoy it quite a bit.

[00:08:50] But there's nothing wrong with that.

[00:08:52] I mean I'm not yucking anybody else's.

[00:08:54] I'm also very particular in what I watch though.

[00:08:56] Yeah, there's some anime.

[00:08:57] I will instantly be like oh no we're not watching this.

[00:09:00] Like anything that's like over the top artistic wise like the Jojo's Berserk adventures.

[00:09:04] Like I couldn't get into that.

[00:09:06] Yeah it's difficult so.

[00:09:08] Now I have really enjoyed the horror stuff.

[00:09:10] What the fuck is the guy's name?

[00:09:12] I have to look at it.

[00:09:13] There's a particular horror writer that the guy at the comic shop got me into.

[00:09:17] The Justin got me into that I've enjoyed a lot of the horror manga and they started doing Netflix shows of this guy's stuff.

[00:09:23] And I've enjoyed them.

[00:09:25] They still have some of the conventions that I'm not super happy with.

[00:09:27] Fuck what's his name?

[00:09:29] I'm just not.

[00:09:30] Somebody wants to touch your comics.

[00:09:31] You know the best part is we turned on the recording because we were talking about the game.

[00:09:33] And then it was.

[00:09:35] And then instantly tangent into something that has nothing to do.

[00:09:38] I'm gonna say that's Cody's fault.

[00:09:39] Yeah.

[00:09:40] It totally is Grady's fault.

[00:09:42] Yep.

[00:09:43] We were doing fine with that.

[00:09:45] I should have shut up.

[00:09:46] What the fuck is this guy's name?

[00:09:47] I had to start talking about Carl Weathers and then we tangent into speaking of shows.

[00:09:51] Yep.

[00:09:52] Oh it was yeah 100% was fine.

[00:09:54] We're going to lose all of this because nothing we're talking back and forth to him.

[00:09:58] And he's not being picked up at all.

[00:10:00] No screw it.

[00:10:01] We'll keep it in.

[00:10:03] That's not true.

[00:10:04] Junji Ito.

[00:10:05] Oh.

[00:10:06] Uzamaki.

[00:10:07] Uzamaki is one of the many that I've read but Junji Ito has a special on Netflix where he does a bunch of horror episodes.

[00:10:12] Uzamaki was not my favorite, but it was good.

[00:10:14] So the show Uzamaki, like just I've seen I just actually watched trailer like two days ago.

[00:10:21] Oh yeah.

[00:10:22] It's weird to shit.

[00:10:23] This is this is very weird.

[00:10:24] Yeah.

[00:10:25] If I had to summarize it, I mean it's a spiral into horror on it, but it's basically about how spirals murder an entire multiple.

[00:10:31] Spiral like the geometrical shape.

[00:10:33] Right right.

[00:10:34] Okay.

[00:10:35] Spirals.

[00:10:36] I was about to clarify too.

[00:10:37] Okay.

[00:10:38] The spiral.

[00:10:39] Spirals.

[00:10:40] Spirals are bad.

[00:10:41] Okay.

[00:10:42] Yeah.

[00:10:43] No spirals.

[00:10:44] It gets to the point where it's like like spirals like spirals tornadoes like cyclone spirals.

[00:10:50] Feel like something happened to this this artist.

[00:10:52] It didn't know he writes some really fucked up stuff.

[00:10:56] I'm trying to think of the one that I liked the best from him.

[00:10:58] It was definitely not Uzamaki.

[00:10:59] There was one about some kids who they formed a suicide pact and went to all kill themselves, but they didn't die and gain superpowers

[00:11:07] I think that one was very cool.

[00:11:08] I have to find that one.

[00:11:09] Yeah.

[00:11:10] I've read a lot of his stuff.

[00:11:11] Dujieito, very cool.

[00:11:12] Do enjoy him some DG elements and shit here, but yeah, mostly most the anime among the

[00:11:18] Nazis when you say DG elements it's you mean just like unknowable horror.

[00:11:22] Right.

[00:11:23] Yeah.

[00:11:24] Like you get through all of Uzamaki and like at no point do you understand what the fuck is going on?

[00:11:28] You just become terrified of spirals.

[00:11:30] Like legitimately by the end of it the town and all the people and everything else are part of the spiral

[00:11:35] and the spiral is the only thing that exists.

[00:11:37] And we were all a part of the spiral and are always been a part of the spiral and there's nothing but the spiral kind of like.

[00:11:42] Gotcha.

[00:11:43] Yeah, there's something you said when we were playing a DG game that is stuck with me.

[00:11:48] You just looked at me in the eyes and you said hey bud, we're all swirling the drain.

[00:11:53] Oh yeah, no, swirling the toilet is a great metaphor for DG.

[00:11:58] See I look at something like that and I know that I'm missing something because if you read it in Japanese

[00:12:04] it's something completely different than just the spiral.

[00:12:07] That's fair.

[00:12:08] That's what I feel like I'm missing in anime.

[00:12:11] That's the cultural connection.

[00:12:13] Yes.

[00:12:14] It's like watching as a kid you know watching Dragon Ball Z, you know you never really understood why his fucking nose was bleeding all the time because that's a cultural Japanese reference.

[00:12:24] Really?

[00:12:25] Yeah.

[00:12:26] It's like there's a show on Netflix called Dark.

[00:12:29] That's such a good show.

[00:12:30] It really is.

[00:12:31] It's fucking amazing.

[00:12:32] If you haven't seen it.

[00:12:33] If you haven't listened, if you watch it with the English dub, it's worse than if you watch it with the German or the English subtitle.

[00:12:40] Oh interesting.

[00:12:41] You're missing something in the translation.

[00:12:44] Yeah, if you haven't seen Dark, don't Google it just go watch it.

[00:12:46] Yes.

[00:12:47] Dark is probably one...

[00:12:48] I've seen it.

[00:12:49] I still have to watch.

[00:12:50] Watch the last season.

[00:12:51] It is 100% one of my favorite things I've ever watched on Netflix ever.

[00:12:54] Yeah.

[00:12:55] Hands down.

[00:12:56] I was actually talking to my dad about it just last weekend because he was complaining about how he can't watch.

[00:13:00] He hates watching things that are dubbed and my dad can't read fast enough to do so.

[00:13:04] So he doesn't watch a lot of things that are produced in English.

[00:13:07] And I'm like, man you really miss that on Dark because Dark is probably one of the best.

[00:13:11] I'm into the point where I watch everything with subtitles on it.

[00:13:14] Yeah, it's true.

[00:13:15] It's a shame that people have to do that because I feel like we're missing something in the audio balance.

[00:13:19] As a podcast, that pisses me off because like the audio balance is so important.

[00:13:22] I feel like we've worked very hard to give good quality audio.

[00:13:25] No, I mean even English stuff.

[00:13:27] Right.

[00:13:28] I'm re-problem with the audio.

[00:13:29] Yeah, I realize that I'm missing things that are being said.

[00:13:33] And you shouldn't.

[00:13:34] Exactly.

[00:13:35] It's a professional production.

[00:13:36] So what are we missing?

[00:13:37] I heard somebody actually say that we're missing it because most of it is recorded in 5.1 and most of us don't use surround sound.

[00:13:43] Well, it's a timing thing too, right?

[00:13:44] For translation, if something translates to twice the time it takes to actually say it in English,

[00:13:50] you're going to have to come up with something to solve that.

[00:13:52] But he was talking about even watching this in English.

[00:13:54] Yeah, I will watch American television or movies with subtitles on it.

[00:13:58] And to me, that's bad audio editing.

[00:14:00] Or like I said, I've seen theorized they're designing their sound for a 5.1 and if you're just listening to it on a left-right audio,

[00:14:08] you're getting two.

[00:14:09] So basically you're missing out on 3.1 of the channels they designed it for.

[00:14:13] That's why they talk about oh, the action is always so loud but the audio is always so soft.

[00:14:18] It's like we're probably the audio designer had the audio in the back left right,

[00:14:22] but had the sound effects in the front left right.

[00:14:25] So if you're on a two instead of a 5.1, everything's coming from the front left right.

[00:14:30] So the action is overbalanced compared to the back left right.

[00:14:34] That makes a lot of sense.

[00:14:35] My brother-in-law just spent like $15,000 on his own home audio setup and he's got 9.1 setup.

[00:14:42] Wait, nine.

[00:14:43] Yeah, it's got nine different channels.

[00:14:46] I don't understand it.

[00:14:47] Where the fuck is the nine come from?

[00:14:49] That's a real left right, so it's 5.1.

[00:14:52] Yeah, he's got sides.

[00:14:54] He's got sides.

[00:14:55] He's got foreing.

[00:14:56] He might even be more.

[00:14:57] He's got foreing the ceiling.

[00:14:58] He's got two on the side.

[00:15:00] The fuck?

[00:15:01] He's got two, he's got only directional at most.

[00:15:03] He's got two subs and he's got a center channel.

[00:15:06] I don't know.

[00:15:08] Anyway, he just said, I just watch a little bit of top gun maverick with me.

[00:15:14] Oh my god.

[00:15:15] He's here, the Jets like, yeah, no seriously.

[00:15:18] It's directional.

[00:15:19] Yeah.

[00:15:20] It's amazing.

[00:15:21] I imagine you do interesting.

[00:15:22] I would like to see that setup.

[00:15:23] It's really cool.

[00:15:24] If you can ever get me an invite, let me know.

[00:15:26] Yeah, like you and me.

[00:15:27] Because I dealt with Omni-directional stuff in theater but you don't.

[00:15:31] I make sense.

[00:15:32] I mean, if they're taking the audio that's directly from the theater and piping that out on the blu-ray.

[00:15:37] But I think even Netflix is 5.1.

[00:15:39] A big audio nerd Jeff, you hadn't realized over the last decade.

[00:15:43] There's no problem with that.

[00:15:44] I'm just going around and we're going to play the game.

[00:15:46] We're going to play the game.

[00:15:47] No, I'm thinking about editing.

[00:15:50] Fuck you, Jeff Bot.

[00:15:52] Fuck you too, Grady.

[00:15:54] It's just going to be...

[00:15:56] No, it's good choice.

[00:15:59] No, I hear Jeff Bot saying I had to listen to 20 minutes of them talking about nonsense.

[00:16:05] Here are the five good clips.

[00:16:07] And it's just Spencer like saying, fuck shit.

[00:16:09] Oh hey, watch this.

[00:16:10] Random clip.

[00:16:11] We now begin the episode by the way.

[00:16:14] Anime sucks.

[00:16:15] Yeah.

[00:16:16] I have everybody else...

[00:16:18] No, it case anyone's interested from this whole audio.

[00:16:21] I export the shit in mono.

[00:16:23] So it doesn't matter what system you have.

[00:16:25] It's not even exported in...

[00:16:28] Because it has to do with the file size.

[00:16:30] If I export it in left-right channel, I get fewer episodes per month.

[00:16:33] So we export in mono at 128 bits in case anyone was curious.

[00:16:38] So we get radio quality, which is why everyone's like, oh your podcast sounds great.

[00:16:41] It's like, yeah, because most people do like 96 or less.

[00:16:44] So fuck them, we do at least 128.

[00:16:47] I think it'd be honest I did.

[00:16:48] To 18 for Docside Dogs.

[00:16:49] Stark, give me something to work with.

[00:16:51] Shut up long enough for it to happen!

[00:16:53] One.

[00:16:57] You gotta leave that.

[00:16:59] Okay, so...

[00:17:00] Last time we found out...

[00:17:02] Or that Irene is underwater.

[00:17:05] Correct.

[00:17:06] We were talking about this before we started recording and we wanted to get the conversation on recording.

[00:17:12] I want to use Irene as an income stream.

[00:17:16] Get her to shut CIA funds to us.

[00:17:19] And promise her some that's fallen off the back of a truck to clear herself.

[00:17:24] Oh, that's a great idea.

[00:17:26] Yeah.

[00:17:27] Okay.

[00:17:28] And we could...

[00:17:29] We could fund that eventually.

[00:17:31] We could take a lot of the pressure off of us because I have a feeling that really to get the top dollar for the artifacts that we have fencing them.

[00:17:38] I feel like we could offload them.

[00:17:40] I know we do.

[00:17:41] We have a bunch of clay tablets.

[00:17:42] Yes, we have.

[00:17:43] You have wins on note to a dot.

[00:17:44] Yes, yeah.

[00:17:45] Okay.

[00:17:46] I'm just making sure we're distinguishing between the artifacts that you took for your private military contact.

[00:17:50] Yes.

[00:17:51] And wins on note to a dot.

[00:17:52] Yeah, we're not talking about the stat...

[00:17:53] Well, we are talking about the statues too but...

[00:17:55] But anyway...

[00:17:56] We have tablets.

[00:17:57] Yeah, yeah.

[00:17:58] My only point there was that if we wanted to get top dollar, it was not going to be a quick transaction.

[00:18:04] So this gives us some breathing room.

[00:18:07] And if she has to sell it to somebody, she's inserting a team to go after Al Jabiri again.

[00:18:13] We can give her another shot.

[00:18:14] I mean, that's going to solve our monetary problems but it's also closing off the CIA as a resource at that point.

[00:18:21] Why?

[00:18:22] We're helping her out.

[00:18:23] We're helping her out in her personal life.

[00:18:24] If we play her car...

[00:18:25] I think you're right and that there's a risk that that would happen.

[00:18:29] Yes, but if we roll well then I think we would actually...

[00:18:36] But on top of it, we know that she's not going to be able to stay in her current position with the CIA long term if she doesn't do something.

[00:18:44] Yeah, the problem with...

[00:18:45] Because of her security risk.

[00:18:47] This is backhanded blackmail because now that we're offering her a solution, we're saying we know and we can fuck you.

[00:18:54] And then on top of it, she's going to have to do more off the book shit.

[00:18:58] So right now, we continue assisting us.

[00:19:01] We need funds to pay off our activities in London.

[00:19:05] Yes.

[00:19:06] And if we want to do...

[00:19:08] I mean, we're running pretty dry and so if we want to do anything else with PMCs,

[00:19:12] military contractors, we're going to...

[00:19:14] Or if we need to acquisition more resources.

[00:19:17] Or equipment.

[00:19:18] Yeah.

[00:19:20] Let's...

[00:19:21] We're greedy about liquidating the wins so known to a Dodd to use the M first,

[00:19:26] the museum at Baghdad or maybe even the museum of London.

[00:19:29] And see what that turns up first and then if...

[00:19:32] You know, the idea of giving it to London is a...

[00:19:37] It's a better idea.

[00:19:38] It might buy us more.

[00:19:39] It might pay for...

[00:19:40] Yeah, not doing it.

[00:19:41] And we give it as money as well.

[00:19:43] Well, we would need to clear it with Gwyn.

[00:19:47] Because he's our contact with the UK DG.

[00:19:52] And if they can secure the stuff that we're not really wanting to give to the Baghdad museum,

[00:19:58] then that's a win solution.

[00:20:01] It's a win-win-win.

[00:20:02] Yes.

[00:20:03] I like that.

[00:20:04] That's a very good idea.

[00:20:05] As long as they don't just cap us once we hand it over and not give us any money.

[00:20:09] And if we still want to exploit Irene, maybe we can approach it differently

[00:20:13] and leave the black males half of that out.

[00:20:16] If she is interested in getting what's off the back of a truck,

[00:20:20] then maybe she can scratch our back only to scratchers.

[00:20:23] Yeah, I mean, we can...

[00:20:24] Yeah, we don't even...

[00:20:25] We can open the discussion with...

[00:20:27] Can you fund us going after another shot at El Jbeery?

[00:20:30] Is that eliminates the possibility that Irene...

[00:20:33] You can see her as a threat at that point.

[00:20:36] That's a really good point.

[00:20:38] And when she says no, then we can try and sweeten the popcorn

[00:20:42] and at the same time say, hey fucker.

[00:20:44] I think that's the last part.

[00:20:47] That's the last part.

[00:20:48] Yeah, that was the first one.

[00:20:49] We akin to Matumbohr.

[00:20:51] Not in my house.

[00:20:54] Yeah, I really like that plan.

[00:20:56] Tick-kote, did you hear...

[00:20:58] No, that's fine.

[00:20:59] I'm giving you a heads up.

[00:21:00] Or I guess I'm not previously aware.

[00:21:02] So if you want to enact a plan without me knowing,

[00:21:04] I went to the bathroom surreptitiously.

[00:21:06] Okay.

[00:21:07] I have a good guess of what you're doing but...

[00:21:09] You do you.

[00:21:11] So we want to...

[00:21:12] I think step one is clearing with Gwen giving away, not giving away.

[00:21:18] Selling, wins a known door, Dodd.

[00:21:20] Who should call her?

[00:21:21] She's technically on the phone right now.

[00:21:23] Where are we?

[00:21:24] Yeah, we know.

[00:21:25] No.

[00:21:26] Irene is with Al Rabini.

[00:21:28] Correct.

[00:21:29] We left it with us on the phone.

[00:21:31] I don't know he's the character we want enacting this plan.

[00:21:35] But because she was calling in with...

[00:21:38] She was calling with Intel about the 23 Shia militia that were flayed.

[00:21:45] She was giving us the information on...

[00:21:47] There's also an eyewitness cloud of insects, evil gin, stuff.

[00:21:52] So four days ago, 23 Shia militia were...

[00:21:55] Was that coalition forces?

[00:21:58] Sires reading.

[00:21:59] Was that talking to me?

[00:22:00] Yeah, was that the 20...

[00:22:01] That was coalition forces wasn't it?

[00:22:03] Well I was not paying attention to you.

[00:22:05] The Shia attack that Irene was calling about.

[00:22:07] I don't know.

[00:22:08] 23 Shia militia.

[00:22:09] I was signing the contract called Chances of Blackmail Success.

[00:22:14] Well we've since had further discussions about it.

[00:22:18] Fair enough, hold on.

[00:22:19] I haven't got to remember that page number.

[00:22:22] I need to come back.

[00:22:23] As you were walking away what you heard was the start of a plan which then turned...

[00:22:28] To turn mail her, right?

[00:22:29] Which then turned into something different.

[00:22:31] To start with.

[00:22:32] Fair enough.

[00:22:34] So the question was the information that she gave me.

[00:22:36] Correct.

[00:22:37] Yeah, yeah.

[00:22:38] Please stand by.

[00:22:39] You said 23 people were played?

[00:22:41] Yeah.

[00:22:42] In Mahana which was a significant distance from Mosul if I remember correctly.

[00:22:46] Yes.

[00:22:47] That is correct.

[00:22:48] I think that there has been a general shocking for five white dudes who live in Indiana.

[00:22:55] Don't really understand the geography of North and Iraq very well.

[00:23:01] What?

[00:23:02] I do think for our game purposes, this is me generalizing as I often do in games.

[00:23:07] Let's presume that you're seeing an expansion but my storytelling expansion of that may or may not be accurate to geography.

[00:23:15] So...

[00:23:17] I think we looked it up and Mahana is a significant distance.

[00:23:20] I don't know that I've been storytelling distance in Mosul in the surrounding area appropriately.

[00:23:26] So can we assume that it's been a gradual expansion?

[00:23:30] From the attacks that we've had coming in?

[00:23:32] Or is this a huge jump?

[00:23:34] I don't think it's a huge jump.

[00:23:35] I think you've kind of like heard of a story and that was it that was distant.

[00:23:39] And then you've heard of another story and that was distant if that makes sense.

[00:23:43] What was the story that was distant and then there was this story that is distant.

[00:23:47] So there was the Karak where we talked about with I think it was Karak where we were talking about Karak was a district and a city and a province or something like that.

[00:23:56] Right.

[00:23:57] So I think that within a...

[00:23:59] We'll say within a perimeter of Mosul you are hearing about these attacks that share similar stylistic flailings or situations that you're kind of looking for, right?

[00:24:11] Flailings.

[00:24:12] Flailings.

[00:24:13] Even I was like wait a minute.

[00:24:17] Yes, we see Fat Boy would you like to enter the conversation here?

[00:24:22] Go fuck yourself, Jeff.

[00:24:24] And whatever Jeff Bot just said.

[00:24:29] Hey, month and a half now I am not that weasy anymore.

[00:24:33] That's fair.

[00:24:35] I think that that's fair. Good for you.

[00:24:37] The treadmill is out so I'm trying to make positive improvements in my life as well.

[00:24:42] I need to start that coaching season coming back around.

[00:24:46] I need to get in the shape.

[00:24:49] Be running with kids.

[00:24:50] Karate has been fun, not hard because I basically do karate with old women and kids under the age of 16.

[00:24:56] So it's not exactly.

[00:24:58] I did fucking ruin a 16 year olds day the other day which was awesome.

[00:25:02] I was gonna say anything because already Jeff and Trotter said Cody shut the fuck up with their eyes so I was going on Spencer.

[00:25:08] Yeah, it's fair.

[00:25:09] Oh my god, here he goes again.

[00:25:11] So they have...

[00:25:12] They have these boards, these plastic boards that are like you break the boards right?

[00:25:16] And I've never actually hit one because I just started class but I see all the time the kids struggle with them.

[00:25:23] So I have no idea how much force it actually takes, right?

[00:25:25] I'm the only male older than 15, right?

[00:25:29] So the male instructor who's probably I'm gonna guess 16 at best, right?

[00:25:34] Is holding this fucking board and I'm like I'm not going to not break the board on the first strike.

[00:25:39] Like because fuck that, I'm the only like red blooded male adult.

[00:25:45] Like I can't not break the board because I'm a man and all these boys need to look up up to me.

[00:25:50] I want to look up to me but by God they better fear me like that's pretty nice.

[00:25:55] That's the pecking order, right?

[00:25:57] Does that make you feel like a big man?

[00:25:59] But so in the past sensei who is you know man of in his mid to late 30s maybe early 40s right has always held the board.

[00:26:07] Well this 16 year old kid's holding the board.

[00:26:09] So you're we're breaking them and I'm hitting them each time and I'm breaking him.

[00:26:12] So the first one, you know you pop and you're punching through and it breaks.

[00:26:15] Okay, and a project through it breaks.

[00:26:17] And like we've gone up like there's like eight levels of board right?

[00:26:20] So I don't know what the resistance is on this but I'm not gonna not break it on the first strike right.

[00:26:24] It's so I go to I go to open palm strike this in karate class.

[00:26:28] I get on else and the kid I don't think was paying attention.

[00:26:32] And I strike the fuck out of this board and it broke way easier than I expected.

[00:26:38] And half that fucking board flies out of his hand across the room like 15 feet and all the under 15 year olds go.

[00:26:46] Oh, because this white belt just shattered this fucking board.

[00:26:50] Just the aliens from toy story.

[00:26:52] And I was like I just fucking owned this kid so hard in the middle class.

[00:26:57] And now it's going to be a pissing contest between us.

[00:27:00] Because you know that a 16 year old is not going to appreciate that but yeah he was just like I was like it isn't that hard.

[00:27:06] Like apparently it's it's very easy to break those boards in case anyone has that situation.

[00:27:11] I they're called trainer boards for risk.

[00:27:14] I sincerely believe that your standard like drywall is probably got more resistance than the ones too.

[00:27:20] The one that I hit before that had more resistance than I expected so I was like I gotta hit this one harder

[00:27:26] because I was up to like the fifth level of board or something like that.

[00:27:29] Someone get sticky.

[00:27:30] So I was like I want to pop it so I was definitely striking through you know strike hard strike fast.

[00:27:35] Cobra Kai shit right but it was like sweet in the flying crane kick was illegal.

[00:27:43] There is no spoon.

[00:27:45] But it was like like he definitely like he turned to his head to the side as I struck and it was this like you are not ready for the impact of a mid 30s male compared to you know the

[00:27:58] boy wasn't ready for this much man.

[00:28:01] I mean yeah not like I gave him a whole lot of man but yeah.

[00:28:06] The thing just would tumbling through the air is like I have ruined all the respect you've gained as a much higher level belt.

[00:28:11] It's kind of a nonsense anyway but that's fine.

[00:28:14] You might have the technique but I have the power.

[00:28:16] Wait what did you do that or you're not sure which.

[00:28:19] Did you just call them a nonce?

[00:28:22] Yeah.

[00:28:23] Doesn't that mean what you think it means?

[00:28:25] I don't think you're saying it right.

[00:28:27] I'm not saying it right.

[00:28:29] I'm not saying it right.

[00:28:31] I'm not saying it right.

[00:28:33] Spoiler alert that word doesn't mean what he thinks it means.

[00:28:37] Look at the dictionary and everything I say.

[00:28:39] My mind my mind my mind.

[00:28:41] Interesting.

[00:28:42] I have to not use.

[00:28:44] What are we doing?

[00:28:48] Here we go.

[00:28:50] Ademology 2 according to Wikipedia.

[00:28:52] Stupid worthless individual.

[00:28:54] Who's on the phone with?

[00:28:55] But it gives you dance in ANC as well.

[00:28:58] Not a good talkie talkie guy.

[00:29:00] Really?

[00:29:01] Who is a good talkie talkie?

[00:29:03] She's there too.

[00:29:04] No they're not.

[00:29:05] Where is she?

[00:29:06] We're not saying out doing...

[00:29:07] She was with the peshmerger.

[00:29:09] Oh yes.

[00:29:10] Would this be a little medicaming here but this would be a bureaucracy role right?

[00:29:15] I mean maybe.

[00:29:16] Maybe even if it is.

[00:29:17] Well we don't have to do the money thing.

[00:29:19] Yeah.

[00:29:20] The money thing right now.

[00:29:21] We're getting intel from her.

[00:29:22] Yeah.

[00:29:23] Should I let her know that we're planning to in the future move into Mosul and that we might

[00:29:31] have future intel that would be helpful to her and will be contacting her and then call it quits from there?

[00:29:36] I think that's a good idea.

[00:29:37] I just think we may have already told her that.

[00:29:40] We haven't.

[00:29:41] She doesn't even know what we're doing.

[00:29:44] Yeah all right.

[00:29:45] So that's...

[00:29:46] I think that's how we'll end that conversation.

[00:29:48] That's fine.

[00:29:49] I figured you would.

[00:29:50] Yeah but that will be in touch very soon.

[00:29:51] We're dead.

[00:29:52] And when was the...

[00:29:54] When was the shea attack?

[00:29:55] Four days ago.

[00:29:56] Four days ago what is today?

[00:29:57] May 10th.

[00:29:58] For 10th?

[00:29:59] That's what I thought.

[00:30:00] May 10th.

[00:30:01] That's what I have.

[00:30:02] Got it.

[00:30:03] It's 6th.

[00:30:04] May 6th was, I believe, the new moon.

[00:30:06] I believe we did corroborate that.

[00:30:08] I officially posted that to fans of the rank corps brothel so they can judge us there.

[00:30:12] What?

[00:30:13] Naut.

[00:30:14] Oh my god he's still talking about it.

[00:30:17] Yeah no it was when Jeff is psychoanalyzing me.

[00:30:21] He's 100% correct.

[00:30:22] The definitions and words that I use absolutely.

[00:30:25] I like to use them correctly and pronounce them correctly and fuck you the piece of shit.

[00:30:31] And your jet bomb.

[00:30:32] Whatever.

[00:30:33] Carry on.

[00:30:34] You hang up, get that.

[00:30:35] What do you guys want to do?

[00:30:36] May 10th.

[00:30:37] I've got nothing else going on May 10th so...

[00:30:40] I mean last session which was more productive than this session has been so far.

[00:30:45] Wonder why.

[00:30:46] Who's fault is that?

[00:30:47] Don't blame me you cocks.

[00:30:49] This is fun.

[00:30:50] We're all like working against him.

[00:30:52] I like it.

[00:30:53] I'm just going to do it in the game.

[00:30:55] So quick question to you Cody.

[00:30:58] It seems like there's a bit of a timeline on the Peshmerga and their ability to get us in.

[00:31:03] Get us a safe house in Mosul and maybe have us options for incursion into Mosul as we move into the next day.

[00:31:10] Is there a way for NASA to check in on that and kind of express the urgency of the situation and get things moving a little bit quicker or...

[00:31:18] I think that you've dealt with the Peshmerga enough that you realize the Pesh hitting reaching out to the Peshmerga is not an easy button.

[00:31:27] I got a huff on there hookah one more fucking time.

[00:31:30] It's it's if you grease the wheels with money and or influence that will help.

[00:31:37] But you they are concerned about inserting Americans into Mosul via their lines probably because they don't 100% trust you yet.

[00:31:47] You gave them some stuff and they appreciate you.

[00:31:49] Right, but you...

[00:31:50] And I also I think we left it to that I left it very open.

[00:31:54] Is there anything else that we can do for you?

[00:31:58] Yeah.

[00:31:59] So I guess I got checked back in with that and see what do you need from a narrative perspective.

[00:32:04] I think that if you guys come up with something clever, I'll let you use that angle.

[00:32:08] But it's not like they're going to come to you and say hey here's an easy problem you can solve would get you in Mosul.

[00:32:12] Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:32:14] So you come up with something clever, I'll let you run with it.

[00:32:16] When you say something clever are you specifically referring to what we would do for them or...

[00:32:21] We could or a plan or a...

[00:32:24] If you approach them with something useful, you've created enough of a connection they will run with that.

[00:32:30] We might get into Mosul and find something there that we could use their help with.

[00:32:36] Right, yeah, that's true.

[00:32:38] We could also talk to them about like setting up surveillance infrastructure like within Mosul.

[00:32:43] That's true.

[00:32:44] We could tap into outside of this.

[00:32:45] That's assuming they don't already have...

[00:32:47] But maybe not the technology that they have.

[00:32:50] They're less sickened and more like man on the ground like person to person.

[00:32:54] Human, yeah.

[00:32:55] Correct.

[00:32:56] That's fair.

[00:32:57] That's a fair assessment.

[00:32:58] Like SIGINT is an angle but the question is do they trust inserting say three to five Americans with fake IDs and relying on their SIGINT?

[00:33:08] Or is it more risky for them to utilize their communication or entry into Mosul with the thought that you guys might blow their cover kind of thing?

[00:33:17] So you need to convince them some way and needs to be more than just kind of a lucky role if that makes sense.

[00:33:22] I don't think that we're really relying on them to get us in the Mosul.

[00:33:26] I think we're looking for a safe house inside.

[00:33:28] Okay, and I think that's the thing.

[00:33:30] If you change the conversation maybe that changes a little bit.

[00:33:33] Yeah, I think that was... yeah, honestly I think that was our primary goal was a safe house.

[00:33:37] Okay.

[00:33:38] But we were all... I think in our conversation I was like if we could have help with incursion that would be great.

[00:33:44] The S becomes more specific than it is more role dependent.

[00:33:49] It depends on what we use our identities for while we're there.

[00:33:51] Like if we're going to go posing as medical personnel at the hospital.

[00:33:55] That becomes our safe house at that point.

[00:33:57] Yeah.

[00:33:58] Right, but are we going for... what was it covert or...

[00:34:03] Clandestine.

[00:34:04] Clandestine.

[00:34:05] Are we looking to blend in or are we looking to hide?

[00:34:08] I thought we were going to blend in is we're not going to be able to do a lot of investigation if we're having to hide.

[00:34:12] Yeah, that's true.

[00:34:14] Okay.

[00:34:15] Whatever you guys want to do, I think ultimately this game is getting to a point where likely you are splitting the team and you have a team in Mosul

[00:34:22] and a team supporting the Mosul offensive.

[00:34:25] So I just think for you make that leap, you probably want to think about supply lines, communication, where you're going to stay, what you're going to do, what your objectives are, what you're going to target.

[00:34:35] I just think you want to think about that.

[00:34:37] I think we're getting close to that point of the game.

[00:34:39] We want to get to the survivors for Intel there.

[00:34:42] We want to check out the university for ties to resums.

[00:34:45] We want to check out the rooms of Nineveh, but that's a caveat because that place is hot.

[00:34:50] Yeah, you.

[00:34:51] So we need surveillance done on that area first of some guy.

[00:34:56] We need to check into the secret police and their ties to the fucking immortal guy that doesn't get killed by CIA missiles somehow.

[00:35:04] Right.

[00:35:05] Lucky.

[00:35:06] Mm hmm.

[00:35:07] That's how this game works.

[00:35:11] Just luck.

[00:35:13] It's like a guy who got shot in the head by a sniper and band of brothers just got lucky.

[00:35:17] Are we?

[00:35:18] It's a fun.

[00:35:19] Crazy when we go in.

[00:35:20] Are we taking an elder sign with us?

[00:35:22] I think we probably should.

[00:35:24] I do think the elder sign is something you guys should discuss.

[00:35:28] Is that something that we're going to try and make when we find, when we find where we need it or are we taking one with us?

[00:35:35] I vote take one with us.

[00:35:36] You do have the stopper as well.

[00:35:38] No, the stopper is on the M4.

[00:35:40] We did put it on the M4.

[00:35:42] Oh really?

[00:35:43] Yes, I'm sorry.

[00:35:45] We did just inscribe it on the stopper for the other, the smaller vessel.

[00:35:50] Yeah, sort of.

[00:35:53] What do you guys think?

[00:35:55] I think somebody needs to go that can do it at least.

[00:35:58] Have it did not need it.

[00:36:00] The need it and not have it.

[00:36:02] And again, you sort of have ostensibly you're talking about three teams.

[00:36:06] You got a team in England.

[00:36:07] You got a team in.

[00:36:08] That's a in Kirk cook and one going in the Mosul.

[00:36:11] So to say you have a team in Baghdad too.

[00:36:13] Speaking of which, so our plans were to wrap up in Baghdad possibly secure the tablets for transport to the London for the UK depending on how conversations go.

[00:36:24] Okay.

[00:36:25] And I think that's part of the conversation he was not privy to it was.

[00:36:29] And then the people in Baghdad are going to return to base for insertion into Mosul.

[00:36:34] So it's Captain Dan and Mary who are in Baghdad Baghdad.

[00:36:39] Yep.

[00:36:40] All allow probably a bureaucracy role from either of those two characters if they want.

[00:36:47] It's probably Mary.

[00:36:49] Yeah, 50.

[00:36:50] Yeah, he's got 30.

[00:36:51] 50 is probably enough.

[00:36:52] I'll give it to you without a role.

[00:36:54] You already know with the way that those guys have been inserted into England.

[00:36:59] Gwent would not sign off on you taking those tablets out of Iraq and taking them to England.

[00:37:05] Doesn't mean that you can't but you get the sense that the program would not be happy with that.

[00:37:10] So the program don't need to know.

[00:37:12] I mean, the program was basically saying you're allowed to tell them we need between X and Y.

[00:37:17] Now the two in England can play that out however they want.

[00:37:22] But last time I checked they were talking in the bathroom with the fan on and whispering into each other's ears so they couldn't be overheard by M.I.5 or whatever.

[00:37:30] Right.

[00:37:31] That's their thought anyway.

[00:37:33] So not that you can't do it, but just that's very obvious that if they didn't want you talking about what you knew taking the fucking tablets to England would probably not make Gwent happy.

[00:37:47] You do what you want, but it wasn't happy with you learning the elder sign either.

[00:37:51] Yeah.

[00:37:52] Okay.

[00:37:53] So what other, what other equipment and shit do we need to get together to go in the Mosul?

[00:37:58] So Mary's got the basically her equipment that she carries with her for sales surveillance.

[00:38:05] I S.M.I. catching stuff like that. She's just got that stuff with her guessing it's a couple electronics and external stuff for her laptop or whatever.

[00:38:13] So does Mary have crafting electronics or anything like that?

[00:38:19] Yeah, she does. She has good craft electronics.

[00:38:24] Reveany's got a laptop with large library reports classified analysis of hacking techniques and more established literature on advanced language studies.

[00:38:33] So it has craft microelectronics.

[00:38:36] Okay. So between the two of them they should be able to make whatever that they want.

[00:38:39] Yeah, whatever plan we want to put together we should know how to do it.

[00:38:43] So what kind of plan do we want to put together?

[00:38:47] So into Mosul. I think our, I think the hospital needs to be our primary target when we get there.

[00:38:52] I think it's the safest location that we can insert in without scrutiny.

[00:38:56] It has our primary target of the survivors which is on the timetable.

[00:39:00] They won't be there forever and we can start there once we get into Mosul though we're going to have to play the second game at that point figure out what's going on on the ground.

[00:39:08] Yeah, the secret police what's going on with runs in Neneva this cult is it prevalent there any further attacks sightings.

[00:39:16] Yeah.

[00:39:17] I'm not sure what kind of what kind of significant capabilities we're going to have inside there.

[00:39:23] What's I mean how much infrastructure is in there?

[00:39:26] Well, I mean that's still intact will be there within range to catch cell signals so yes, cells. Yeah, that's true.

[00:39:34] Okay, you know we might be able to hack a local security network for camera.

[00:39:38] Right. That's that's the stuff that I'm not sure what's what's actually working and what's not.

[00:39:42] I don't know. I'll have to see you depended on how much stuff is damaged.

[00:39:47] I mean the camera footage I would assume we would have better luck with cameras at the college than we would it.

[00:39:53] I mean what we can't probably store it on a local server.

[00:39:55] Well, we can't figure out was again though we can we can try to figure out with humans.

[00:39:59] Yeah.

[00:40:00] So the real question is nailing down our infiltration team on top of it.

[00:40:03] So who's going obviously the two in London are not I think Alchuk or those two hour beanie should stay out.

[00:40:10] Yeah, I think it's about I think the danger is blowing our covers so Mary's getting the second and feeding it out to Alchuk for analysis.

[00:40:18] That works.

[00:40:19] Okay.

[00:40:20] Well, it's Mary going to have trouble in Mosul as a white woman maybe she'd have to have a cover that explains why she's there from.

[00:40:27] I mean, to be fair you know, ISIS has recruits from around the world.

[00:40:37] Yeah.

[00:40:38] Right.

[00:40:39] So I think as long as she's careful about where she goes.

[00:40:42] Should be okay.

[00:40:43] Again, another proponent for starting at the hospital.

[00:40:46] Yep.

[00:40:47] I also don't know how many people we have currently training in anything.

[00:40:50] And I don't remember.

[00:40:51] I felt like Warner was training two people were training who was training.

[00:40:55] Warner and Captain Dan two more days.

[00:40:57] What was Captain Dan training in the technology?

[00:41:00] I shouldn't have probably let him go to do all that stuff with the elder sign but it was really cool so.

[00:41:05] Okay, okay.

[00:41:06] I'm kind of letting it slide.

[00:41:08] I'm giving it so bare minimum before we insert we've got two days of training that have to be finished if we're sending both of them.

[00:41:14] And you have to keep in mind.

[00:41:16] Captain Dan is in Mosul.

[00:41:17] I assume Warner is in Kirkuk.

[00:41:19] Correct.

[00:41:20] Dan's in Baghdad not Mosul.

[00:41:21] Or sorry.

[00:41:22] Yeah, with Mary.

[00:41:23] I think we're going to have to go back to Baghdad.

[00:41:25] Well, we'll need at least that long too.

[00:41:27] As for both leaving Baghdad, we can't just leave the tablets so we didn't figure out what we're doing.

[00:41:32] Your research assistant will be fine.

[00:41:34] Al-Rabini can probably relocate to Baghdad.

[00:41:38] If we're talking about sending Captain Dan, Jennifer and Olsen in the Mosul are Landry or Warner going with?

[00:41:46] I think Landry would.

[00:41:47] Landry's the one with connections to the Peshmerga.

[00:41:50] Yeah, so we want him.

[00:41:51] Warner is a medic.

[00:41:52] Right.

[00:41:53] Yeah, and I feel like also somebody who can watch Al-Rabini's back.

[00:41:56] I feel like Landry would be our what would be his purpose?

[00:42:00] Muscle and the connection with the Peshmerga and bureaucracy.

[00:42:03] He's got a pretty high bureaucracy.

[00:42:05] Yeah.

[00:42:06] Who?

[00:42:07] Yeah, who is our face?

[00:42:08] Jennifer.

[00:42:09] Jennifer.

[00:42:10] Okay.

[00:42:11] And she speaks Kurdish.

[00:42:12] Sweet.

[00:42:13] Not that I'm going to play it up but having a female face for ISIL may or may not work out well for you.

[00:42:19] Just something to think about.

[00:42:20] Okay.

[00:42:21] The female brigade.

[00:42:22] What is it?

[00:42:23] Al-Hansa.

[00:42:24] Al-Hansa, I think.

[00:42:25] What purview do they have?

[00:42:27] Are they just over keeping track of women?

[00:42:30] Let me look.

[00:42:31] Okay.

[00:42:32] I feel like that is correct but let me look because again white guy from the middle west.

[00:42:36] Right.

[00:42:37] I have no idea.

[00:42:38] No, I had never heard about it until this game.

[00:42:41] Did you just call it the middle west?

[00:42:43] I love that.

[00:42:44] We're in the middle west.

[00:42:46] That's the middle east.

[00:42:48] The middle west.

[00:42:49] I love that.

[00:42:50] There's going to be one.

[00:42:51] There's got to be the other, right?

[00:42:53] Yeah.

[00:42:54] Landry is.

[00:42:55] What says that thing?

[00:42:56] I think he's a white guy.

[00:42:57] I can't.

[00:42:58] I don't see anything with specifies.

[00:42:59] Sorry.

[00:43:00] Sorry.

[00:43:01] Sorry.

[00:43:02] I wasn't paying attention.

[00:43:03] I know you were picked.

[00:43:04] He's half-cottari.

[00:43:05] All of the characters, all of the player characters were selected because they fear red.

[00:43:11] They could be inserted.

[00:43:12] So it's not like any of the player characters would stand out in Mosul like a sore thumb if that makes sense.

[00:43:18] There are some of them that are maybe better suited than others but all of them could be inserted.

[00:43:23] So it's not like you have some people that are like holy crap.

[00:43:26] You are definitely not going to fit in.

[00:43:29] Yeah.

[00:43:30] I think that's not a bad choice.

[00:43:34] So here this is actually the first thing that I'm going to do is I'm going to put this on the screen.

[00:43:38] That's not a bad choice.

[00:43:39] Um, so here this is actually I'm just going to read this straight out of the book because I think A it's fascinating.

[00:43:45] B it's informative and C it it gives a little perspective.

[00:43:49] So this literally is a paragraph a couple of paragraphs on the book called female agents in Mosul.

[00:43:55] Um, Isles restrictions on women are draconian shocker there.

[00:44:01] Um, mere communication between a woman and a man who are not related by blood or marriage threatens unwanted attention and can lead to violent repercussions.

[00:44:09] To keep their cover female agents going into Mosul must travel as the wives or daughters of male agents or else pose as Isle quote religion police and quote offers officers of the tiny Alcanza brigade.

[00:44:22] Alcanza brigade is tasked with enforcing the laws of other women's behavior.

[00:44:28] Um, it goes on to list arrests beatings lasting lashings or worse for wearing the wrong clothes or presenting insufficiently meek attitudes.

[00:44:37] Members are often drawn from former cruts are 18 to are 18 to 25 years old and are trained for a month there said to be the only women in Isle who allowed to drive and carry weapons.

[00:44:49] The thing is Alcanza provides a useful excuse for travel but the quote brigade is small only a few dozen strong when it was formed in 2014.

[00:44:58] Agents must take care if they encounter anyone who knows its members so as a face it may be difficult, but for travel or for enforcing sort of Sharia law not necessarily bad thing.

[00:45:10] I think I'm after hearing that personally I think it might be better to pose as spouses.

[00:45:15] But we're going in there with two covers right you do have multiple covers. Yes, one of Jennifer's I would say should be Alcanza.

[00:45:22] Yeah, um, she's 20 years too old but yeah, um, also she covers up she probably passed play as a wife or a wife daughter her picture.

[00:45:32] She she could pass for younger how old is she 41 oh shit.

[00:45:36] Yeah, wife. Yeah, but I don't age well so yeah, I'm not I'm not focusing on the sexist aspect, but just kind of a again.

[00:45:44] The historical perspective, I think it's important to kind of note these things right but be it it is in fact a challenge kind of for your agents.

[00:45:52] So I don't want to ignore it, but I'm not going to highlight it either either because fuck I so um, I hope they all burn and hell if hell's the real thing.

[00:46:01] Um, why do you want to know about the criminality?

[00:46:05] I was wondering about the possibility of hacking a bank. Oh, don't don't don't don't don't don't don't yeah, don't

[00:46:13] do creating an account dumping fake funds into it.

[00:46:17] I don't know especially if you're in Baghdad, I don't know if that's a thing.

[00:46:24] I don't know, but I don't mind playing oceans 11 Mosul like why not? Yeah, I mean, I don't see why I couldn't at least try.

[00:46:32] Yeah, I mean it's something I don't even think you have to you even have to be on site. It's all done externally.

[00:46:39] The other thing I would say I've talked about how folks have multiple identities and we can play through that.

[00:46:44] You could have and again in the um in the chart here it gives like three to four options for each male.

[00:46:52] It only really gives two options for females because either it's sort of the Al-Khanza brigade or it's your simply a citizen of the Islamic state.

[00:47:02] So female characters are probably going to have less agency because ISIL is a bunch of diggeristic bricks.

[00:47:11] What what options does it suggest for for male?

[00:47:15] So a citizen of the state residing in Mosul and inspector from Al-Hizba or the Al-Khanza brigade an officer of Amin Al-Dakili,

[00:47:25] a unit of the secret service. Um an officer of Amin Al-Skari, a unit of the secret service.

[00:47:33] It seems like there are slight differences in what those two services do. Um, Amin Al-Dakili is law and order.

[00:47:42] Um, Amin Al-Skari is reconnaissance and special operations.

[00:47:47] We were talking about official organizations here but there's also the academic community.

[00:47:54] I mean Iraq is the birthplace of humanity. So there's tons of archaeological activity there especially during wartime because they're trying to save artifacts from being destroyed.

[00:48:04] I'll skip, I'll skip the official names but a citizen of the state, the morality or religious police which is Al-Khanza as a part of that.

[00:48:13] Um, secret service for law and order, secret service for reconnaissance and special operations, counter intelligence which is Amin Al-Dakili.

[00:48:23] Yeah, what do you think about that Jeff bot?

[00:48:26] Um, Amin Al-Dakili which is counter intelligence and then Amin Al-Khanza, Jeff bot.

[00:48:33] Um, Al-Khanza, which is secret operations conducted outside the caliphate.

[00:48:40] So a lot of like secret service and counter intelligence.

[00:48:44] So what was the one after secret service law and order or secret service?

[00:48:47] Uh, reconnaissance special operations.

[00:48:52] So which one of those guys do you think would be more likely to be someone coming into the city that you would say, oh I'm part of this group and it makes sense that they don't see you around or you know because your what would recon make the most sense special.

[00:49:09] Which character we're talking about?

[00:49:10] Nassar, law and order.

[00:49:11] You think so but what did you look at?

[00:49:13] What's his bureaucracy role?

[00:49:15] 70.

[00:49:16] Right. The guy who understands the machinations of the machine.

[00:49:20] Yeah, I'm with you there.

[00:49:22] My concern is that that brigade would be more likely to be stationed in Mosul and so I would be more likely to run into other people that are part of the law and order

[00:49:32] and it would be like who the fuck are you?

[00:49:34] Whereas if you were if you were recon and special, there's always divisions though and those organizations that and the law and order is going to be is going to have way more people.

[00:49:44] Yeah, that's fair.

[00:49:45] You may not know you wouldn't know everybody.

[00:49:48] There's always a bigger fish and special special operations can be a lot tighter.

[00:49:53] Some of them are some of the paperwork would say that you're from Syria for example, that you're coming from Morocco.

[00:50:00] So you wouldn't be a part of that.

[00:50:02] Okay, that's helpful.

[00:50:03] I'm texting the Islamic names to you now if you want to Google.

[00:50:06] Thank you. I appreciate it.

[00:50:08] Shockingly my understanding of the language is probably a bit rough.

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